new age priestess of goopy crap oprah winfrey he is going to try to both, at the same time, let the united states anti-doping agency know that he's willing to play ball. that he's contrite. he wants them to be able to sanction him to compete in the future in triathlon events. the guy is a competition junky and right now he's banned for life from anything with the seal. they said you better come clean and name names and you better be in every possible appearance. eat some serious humble pie. that's on one side. on the other side, if he reveals too much, that's when the lawsuits begin. >> john: exactly. >> if he reveals, for example he apparently admitted little to oprah. if he admits he was doping in his late 20s, everybody he defamed in that time can sue him. if he starts at 35, then everybody in that period whether he defames can come back and sue him. when you talk about the line of people who might be trying to get a chunk out of him we're not talking about the guy who like saul on breaking bad. it is not small-time lawyers like who advertise on the side of benches. we're talking about